Ransom Writers Chat

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Originally Posted by Jack Hallows

@TheShaman way to harp on a few words and ignore everything else. let me get this straight, so i say that i hate everyone, including my own people, and it’s an issue because jews are included in “everyone”..? so jews are supposed to be excluded from my disdain? why? make this make sense bro.

i treat no one with kiddie gloves when it comes to the damage that has been done to the communities that i’ve grown up in or adjacent to.

& to answer your question of “ Do you know how many people in Germany said the same kinds of things?” Literally No one. no one in the early - mid 1900’s cared about the Palestinians, so no one was saying “antisemitism” doesn’t only relate to jews. there is zero historical evidence to support that Germans were interacting with many semitic people besides European jewry. so my point stands: “antisemitism” used outside of Germany and in the broader context of today is a grossly misleading term and to argue the opposite like is saying that the only “semitic” people that matter are jews. make it make sense. that’s like saying racism only counts when it’s perpetuated against Melanites & everyone else needs to find their own word lol. c’mon bro.

what decade are you living in? have you ever heard of Bolshevism? communism? chattel slavery? zionism?? don’t preach to me about “evil” ideologies when the nazi party lasted barely past a decade. the bolsheviks/communists are responsible for 10s of millions of deaths. zionism’s ideological rhetoric has led to an entire population of people living in what is essentially an open air prison for 80 years, are you going to argue that the world is still black and white?? you gonna tell a Palestinian father who just watched his child get sniped for holding a flag at a protest that nazism is the most evil ideology we’ve ever seen??? C’MON BRO.

you’re not American so i don’t expect you to know what kind of bs we’ve been fed in our learning institutions here. but it’s a damn shame that i leaned about the holocaust in my own country long before i learned about the Trail of Tears. even longer before i learned the difference between indentured servitude & chattel slavery. even longer still before i learned about the bombing of Black Wall Street in Greenwood, Tulsa, Oklahoma in 1921 and other racially motivated massacres that occurred right here on US soil when minorities tried to build something and rise above the social status they were forced into.

my point, is that evil exists. has existed and will exist. there isn’t a meter on evil.

regarding Trump and the rest of those idiots… i don’t follow politics. i don’t waste my time with fake staged antics & ass puppeteering. both republicans and democrats are corrupt, crooked and obscenely disgusting behind closed doors. i will never engage in discussion about the American political system and the myriad of buffoons that populate it… unless it’s a discussion related to how they are all controlled by the same shadow government.

so like i said, i hate everyone equally. that means i will never discriminate against anyone on a personal level. but that also means i’m not falling for bullshit narratives that try to rank the evils that men do. that doesn’t make me a nazi sympathizer, it makes me someone who can see beyond the veil of labels the world wants us to place on people and events.

lastly, regarding Kanye & what he’s said about jews: Kanye is an immature man. but a smart man. everyone knows who controls hollywood. it’s not even up for debate at this point. Kanye took his personal issues with the people that control him & blasted them to the world on a broad brush, which is foolish, but doesn’t negate the experiences he objectively had/is having regarding his career and the people in it. and Kanye is not the first person to talk about how shiesty jewish record executives have tried to ruin careers. Michael Jackson, Ice Cube, Ice T, Professor Griff, Scarface, Mos Def, KRS-One, Brand Nubian, etc etc etc.. have broached the topic, so it is hardly an isolated incident. we gonna argue that all of them are just hateful bigots too or can we recognize that something is happening that needs to be discussed through a lens of objectivity?

my stance is that if you’re a rapper, but dismiss the control system that is keeping rap stagnant in this disgusting landscape of low vibrational music on the mainstream side, then you are wrong. there’s a reason the culture is toxic and it’s not because people want to hear that garbage.

i’ll leave you with this: a lot gets lost in translation when put to text, but i’m more than willing to hop on a voice chat with anyone and discuss this at length. we can even record it as a podcast type thing & upload the conversation to youtube or wherever. it’s a discussion worth having.

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far right is funny as hell lmao. but no. i don’t see left or right. they’re all crooked & compromised.

i never said Kanye is my role model. just because i agree with things he’s brought to light doesn’t mean i think he’s Rap Jesus. nigga is lost just like the rest of us. wasn’t too long ago that he was openly expressing how he sold his soul to the devil, so the man is obviously fighting his demons.

y’all might think his actions are dumb, but they’re still opening up the floor for conversations that have been needing to happen for decades, so i respect it. it’s just a damn shame that a nigga had to literally come out pretending to be a nazi for people to start talking about why he would even do something like that. there are levels & although the method was madness, the message peeled back a layer that people are starting to realize they never knew was there.

Jack.. You can't say "I hate the Jews". "Oh, and btw, I hate everyone else as well". This is the kind of standard two tongued snake speech that organisations such as WAR (White Aryan Resistance) have been spewing at least since the 90's. Trump and his minions do the same thing today. Musk didn't heil Hitler.. Of course not. It was a Roman salute, no biggie. But no, that's not how it works.

And why are you talking about Palestinians? Antisemitism means hatred of Jews, and has done so since at least the 19th century. Nietzsche e.g. talks of his sister's antisemitism in the 1870's. Once again, this type of talk is a common smoke screen from Nazi sympathizers, and I don't think you're aware of that. It's like saying that hanging a swastika on your wall is fine, cuz it's just an ancient sun symbol. You have to understand that words and symbols change their meanings over time. We're all aware that "Semitic" literally refer to Jewish, Arabic and Aramaic peoples, but that's just not what the word means today. Look it up in a dictionary.

And the point about the Germans were simply that most of the Germans during 1933-1945 were just normal people like you that didn't necessarily care about politics, but that just went along with or agreed with a few things they sometimes heard on the radio, e.g. Jewish stereotypes. The real evil is actually NOT being aware, or worse, just carrying out orders, like Adolf Eichmann. I think this is why the red flags start to go up for people like me and Virb when we hear stuff like this, because even though it's seemingly banale and insignificant, the lesson from history is that those small things are actually quite dangerous over time.

What decade am I living in? The 20's, once again, unfortunately. And to all sane and rational people today, Nazism is used to refer to something like the embodiment of evil. Mention the Nazis in any debate and everyone knows what it means. Bolshevism is actually the term the Nazis used to refer to the evil communists, lol. Communism was at least originally based on the altruistic ideas of Karl Marx. And The Cold War wasn't a simple war between good and evil in any sense, since the U.S. was the forerunner of mass murders and global atrocities. Nazism, on the other hand, was based on the most psychotic ideas of Friedrich Nietzsche, the nationalism and antisemitism of Dietrich Eckart and the megalomaniacal will to power of Hitler and his inner circle. And sure, everyone has been at war since the dawn of time, but Nazism happened at the first time in history where mass extermination on an industrial scale was made possible. Not to mention that it happened during an otherwise enlightened, scientific and democratic age. The abolition of slavery in the U.S. happened in the 1860's, and slavery would undoubtedly have been more evil if it was a global campaign to exterminate the African race as such (which Nazism also was, btw). So yes, the fight against Nazism is by far the most clear cut fight between good and evil we have in recent history. And honestly, it's quite baffling how anybody can even feel like defending any of it.

Regarding Zionism, it was originally a movement to try to escape persecution in Europe, including the pogroms in Russia, which is in itself a perfectly noble cause. And creating Isreal after the holocaust made quite a lot of sense. So if anything, the evils of Isreali leaders today just prove that human beings are just fundamentally flawed, or maybe more importantly, that religion is an infinite source of stupidity. But as we also see from what's going on, it has nothing to do with any specific race or religion. And the term "Zionism" has been used in antisemitic propaganda since The Elders of Zion (the fake document depicting the Jewish plans to take over the world), so I'm not even sure we are using the word in the same way.

On your point of politics, it's obvious that U.S. politics have been oligarchic and crypto-fascistic for a while, but I hope you realize that antisemitism wouldn't even figure this much in the public space if it wasn't for Trump and the alt right pushing this agenda, e.g. by inviting Kanye to The White House. The irony is that by not caring about politics, you end up being a stooge for whatever the politicians are doing. Trump and Bannon etc. have deliberately tapped into the whole Alex Jones crowd of conspiracy theorists, first of all to tap into an otherwise untapped voter pool, second of all to exploit the anger against the system that exists for good reason, and thirdly as part of their way to go beyond fact and fiction and to be able to shape a classic fascistic narrative of the powerless against the evil cabale of billionarie Jews and George Soros and Bill Gates and whatever (while ironically giving all these people more power than ever before).

But in a way, it's actually quite astonishing, and speaks to the reality show of American politics that I mentioned earlier, that Americans can be so unaware of politics that they don't even notice the obvious qualitative difference between Donald Trump and ANYONE ELSE. They're just like "Oh, he's a Republican, a little bit stupid sometimes, but whatever, I hate the Democrats too". How can you be so unaware of the core principles of democracy, the balance of powers, the constitution, international diplomacy, etc., that you think that Trump is just another random politician? Obviously, the U.S. has the educational level of a third world country, but if you have just a minumim of interest in what's going on in the world, I'm pretty sure you would oppose that guy either way, instead of cheering for his cheerleaders. Even if you didn't vote in general, you'd have to vote that day, or participate in the protests or do something, just because these authoritarian tendencies and the potential consequences for democracy are so obvious.

On the record label industry: First of all, in this day and age, those companies seem to be less and less important after the rise of streaming and social media. But either way, it's not about Jews or Zionism or anything related to that. It's about power and capital, apropos of Marx. It's about money vs. no money. If some record executives happen to be Jews, it is what it is. The world is a complex place. No easy explanations, and especially ones taken out of Nazi propaganda, can be used to explain everything. And rappers aren't Gods. They aren't even journalists or historians or college professors (except KRS, who has an honorary title, I believe, lol). Many rappers come from disenfranchised communites, where scepticism about politics is more widespread and conspiracy theories are more readily accepted. It makes total sense from a sociological standpoint. But at the same time, it also makes them more susceptible when a fascist leader comes along and exploits those sentiments for personal gain.*

Anyway, I don't believe you're evil, Jack. I just believe you were duped. I don't think we need to discuss this in further detail. It's just hard to completely ignore these things given what's going on in the world atm. We're all living in pretty crazy times with the threat of war and the breakdown of the current global order, which is mostly thanks to the U.S. voting populace. But I guess many of you probably remain ignorant to this state of affairs, because it's all about Hollywood anyway, right?

*(On that note, I actually remember, many many years ago, that I had a homie that thought this random guy Donald Trump was dope because he had heard him in a podcast with Eminem and whatever. DT have infiltrated the hip hop communiy for years. But I had to inform him that that guy had actually mentioned running for president for the Republicans, so there wasn't anything dope about him. And lo and behold, he actually did, many years later).

[tl;dr: Kanye West is a moron, Jack is a fascist stooge, Shaman can't sleep]